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Against a Democratic Upper House

Democratising the House of Lords is not the reform needed, argues Tim Stacey

Heredity, incompetence, sleaze, corruption, misrepresentation, lack of transparency – there are plenty of reasons to reform the House of Lords. One only need turn on BBC Parliament to see peers sleeping on the job. But we cannot allow these failures to cloud our appreciation of the system. Wiser than Solon but more democratic than Plato, the theoretical basis of the British bicameral system is a triumph of political philosophy.

The House of Commons is democratic. Its members are elected every four years, more or less, and its legislative agenda corresponds to the manifesto on which the majority party was elected, more or less. The House of Lords is an unelected body for the most part appointed by the Queen on advice of the Prime Minister or the House of Lords Appointments Commission. The Lords is rather like the House of Commons’ mentor – the former scrutinises the latter’s work and rejects it when it’s not good enough.

Why should an unelected body have such sway over the work of an elected body? Three simple reasons: because some of the best minds in the world are equally the worst politicians; because pandering to popular feeling or party ideology undermines philosophical integrity; and because election itself does not necessarily guarantee representation. All of these speak to the Platonic-republican tradition in politics. Let’s look at the arguments in more detail.

There is a long history of great philosophers whose political aspirations were never fulfilled. Plato, to whom almost all political philosophy from communism to liberalism is indebted, famously tried and failed to become governor of Sicily. J.S. Mill, father of modern liberalism, enjoyed only one year in parliament despite multiple attempts.

Interesting as they are, these anecdotes may actually draw us away from the point that there are many pursuits requiring of great wisdom and which play an important role in shaping our social order but which nonetheless are not strictly political. The protagonists of these pursuits can help guide policy. Good examples are business leaders, academics and faith leaders: these represent us in a much deeper way than democracy can allow for – they represent the wisdom of the institutions we cherish.

This notion of sourcing people of greater wisdom speaks to my own preference of functional constituencies: constituencies representing institutions rather than people directly. In places like Hong Kong functional constituencies are limited to areas such as business, media, education and environment. I imagine a more innovative system whereby we place in the Lords people of wisdom from all the fields that we deem important.

We also rely on wisdom to overcome the dangers of populsim. This has never been more important. In an age of evidence-based practice in which we rely far more on empirical truth than moral truth, so that the fact that 80% of people want something has greater import than whether or not it is right, having peers not bound by the morally corrosive obligation to pander to an electorate is essential. We have never needed this strictly undemocratic process more than now.

Nor do we want peers to ‘toe a party line’. The whole point is that they scrutinise individual policies. One would not want certain policies to go unscrutinised simply because one party has a majority. Nor would we want a good policy to be ignored for the same reason.  

Wisdom speaks to the age problem too. Some politicians have called for an upper age limit on serving in the House of Lords. My own feeling is that wisdom comes with age and that incompetence on account of age should be scrutinised on a case-by-case basis.

Finally, I want to challenge the idea that election confers representation. There is an all too obvious point that parties are well known for ignoring manifesto promises. But there is a deeper point about what representation means too. Anyone with even the scantiest knowledge of music can see that reality music shows like the X-factor bring success to people whose talent is questionable. And they do so specifically because the outcome is put to the vote. I have found myself madly voting for someone or other to win the X-factor and yet once they get the record deal, our bond dies and I could not care less: the fact that I voted has very little to do with their representing good music. We see that democracy is corrosive in other areas, so why do we not see it in politics? Representation is too often associated with representing popular feeling. We forget that it may also mean representing what is wise, moral or virtuous.

None of these arguments are against reforming the House of Lords. There are plenty of issues that need to be tackled. Apart from the list offered in the opening sentence, the Lords Spiritual should represent all faiths and none, and the process of selecting peers should be opened up and made more rigorous. As I have said, there are many ways to be representative without being more democratic. My feeling is that democracy often gets support de facto because the only undemocratic systems we learn about are morally reprehensive: fascism, communism. But in the words of Jed Bartlett from the West Wing: ‘You know, we forget sometimes. In all the talk about democracy, we forget it's not a democracy. It's a republic. People don't make the decisions.’


Comments on: Against a Democratic Upper House

Gravatar Jack 09 July 2012
Interesting article from an alternative angle on the subject. A couple of points however. You mention that the link between election and representation is lost when parties don"t follow through on their election manifestos. All three of the major parties included Lords reform in their manifestos - albeit to a greater or lesser extent. You could argue that that didn"t allow much choice for the voter at the polls, but nonetheless, it"s in all three manifestos which attracted ~90% of the vote. You mention that evidence based policy has led to empirical truth over moral truth, with the power of the majority over the (moral?) minority and that only the Lords can counterbalance this. Evidence based policy is rarely the friend of the majority. For instance (and famously) evidence based policy (in the medical sense) has stated that ecstasy is as dangerous as horseriding. Social science and criminology would struggle to reach a definitive conclusion on the subject but yet the masses see it as highly dangerous and wish to see it continue as a class A drug. It remains a class A drug. This certainly couldn"t be said to be a victory for rationality/science/evidence, but instead a victory for morality/popularism/conservatism. My final point is that x-factor voters shouldn"t be allowed to vote in general elections - it should be either or. Kisses.
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Gravatar Tim 10 July 2012
@Jack: Thank you, that"s really helpful. I can certainly see what you"re getting at.r/>r/>Perhaps the moral scrutiny I suggest the Lords provides is supplemented by an equally important evidence-based scrutiny. r/>r/>Personally I still feel the only way to ensure this academic scrutiny remains is by avoiding election.r/>r/>I think I can be too harsh on empirical data and should remember that sometimes good data scrutiny is the only way of pointing out where others" analysis falls short. r/>r/>This has been fun by the way!r/>r/>http://collegeofsociology.blogspot.co.uk/
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Gravatar Jack 10 July 2012
@Tim: You"re right - I think the baby could well be thrown out and that"s a great risk. The difference between the select committees in the Lords and the Commons that I work with is very significant. The Science and Technology Committee"s of the two houses are poles apart in knowledge of the subject and the real policy scrutiny comes from the Lords, not the Commons. Interestingly, the findings of each is often treated very differently in the media and by government. The commons may get the media headlines, but the Lords tend to influence gov"t policy more effectively - for a multitude of reasons that I won"t go into now.r/>r/>On the issue of ideology/morality, I agree that we cannot escape explicit or implicit moral/ideological bias within the metrics we choose to examine. I guess one of my counterpoints would be that economic productivity is an straight forward metric to measure for a politician (economic theory aside). Decifering a usable and steady metric for "happiness" is problematic to say the least. r/>r/>I guess what I have issue with is the straight line you"ve drawn between protecting ideology/morality from evidence through the Lords. In my mind, Boles" arguments hold more to an alliance with ideology than evidence. And from my experience with select committee"s, the Commons falls over itself on ideological grounds, whilst the Lords provides a fantastic source of evidence based policy analysis. What I"m saying is that in relation to morality, it isn"t as plain as you make out.
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Gravatar Tim 10 July 2012
@Jack: Sorry if this ends up being short - just wrote a response and lost it.r/>r/>I agree I"m becoming too tangental with discussion of evidence-based policy.r/>r/>But I do think even good evidence-based policy is more concerned with democratic truth as opposed to moral truth.r/>r/>I had not intended policy based on empirical data concerning, say, economy or poverty, but I do think your turning the debate this way reveals something deeper about my argument: I think the notion that you can put forward evidence-based policy that is somehow beyond ideology/morality is flawed; ideology/morality dictates the very variables we choose to measure.r/>r/>A good example of this is Nicholas Boles MP coming out and suggesting that any social spending that does not improve productivity should be cut. Is productivity the appropriate measure of the effectiveness of all social spending? r/>r/>A longer term example is the Amratya Sen derived idea of measuring happiness alongside GDP. One"s ideology decides whether individual happiness or national output is more important. r/>r/>Even once one has decided what to measure however, one still needs ideology/morality to explain the relevance of that data. I think the best politics is based on ideological/moral argument. Naturally this involves empirical data but the latter cannot be the only thing. To return to my argument, I think a bicameral system with one democratic house and another based on appointing people of acknowledged wisdom protects the balance between evidence and ideology/morality. r/>r/>There are plenty of problems with the House of Lords, but can"t we agree to clear it up without throwing the baby out too?r/>r/>http://collegeofsociology.blogspot.co.uk/
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Gravatar Jack 10 July 2012
@Tim: Hmm, so what I take evidence based policy to mean is in line with New Public Management and overarching public policy theories. So whilst I will concede that statistics can be manipulated (and actually why having those capable and willing to scrutinise these statistics within the civil service - and beyond- is important) true evidence based policy isn"t really about manipulation for purpose, it"s about introducing a system/method of governance that is designed to provide public policy which isn"t based on, what I guess you could call, traditional ideology. Or at the very least, calls for evidence to support the claims of a given ideology. I"m many ways true evidence based policy is the counterweight to selective questionnaires or leading questions, because it calls for fact rather than truth. In the worst sense, it"s the rise of pragmatism, and I guess in that sense the issue of morality still hangs loose and worthy of investigation. I just have concerns about you using evidence based policy as the mule to beat on this issue.
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Gravatar Tim 09 July 2012
@Jack: Thanks for your comments mate. On the election manifesto point, I agree that manifesto promises dictate that Lords reform should take place. But I also questioned with election conferred legitimacy by suggesting that sometimes representing what is right is more important than representing what the majority wish for. r/>r/>My point about evidence-based policy was related to this same idea. What I intended by evidence-based policy was the kind of polling associated with the likes of Phillip Gould and Mark Penn - policy based on passive response as opposed to active organising around a sound political agenda. r/>r/>I agree that sometimes we are lucky enough for the wider public to have strong moral convictions. I"m thinking not just of the Ken Clarke class A drugs conversation but also the moral outrage that has led to U-turns on planning policy, forestry, charities and many more (and actually, a little more evidence-based planning could have made the lives of Cameron and Osbourne a lot easier with regard to these issues). r/>r/>But two problems remain. The first is that evidence-based policy can often be about the manipulation and strategic representation of statistics as opposed to an accurate representation of the range of opinions. Moreover, the sample used for evidence-based policy need not be representative of the country as a whole. As Penn has argued in his Microtrends, it is only necessary for policy to appeal to undecided voters in marginal seats. r/>r/>The second problem is that sometimes we are not lucky enough to have good sense from the wider public. This is when we rely on people of wisdom. I think we have to base the debate on such tough cases. With regards to both problems, there is always evidence for ideas to be verified - the tough thing is to see if they stand up to scrutiny against contrary evidence.r/>r/>Thanks again for your comments. I really hope the Tory rebellion pays off - even if I"m not sure it"s for the right reasons (not at all taken by arguments to do with timing or democratic clashes between the two houses and frankly sickened by arguments based on democracy costing more money).r/>r/>r/>r/>http://collegeofsociology.blogspot.co.uk/
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Gravatar Cole Simmons 03 July 2012
Look to Liechtenstein! (I mean that 1/2 seriously.) And thank you for putting forward a few prudential considerations, concerning non-democratic rule.
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Gravatar Cole Simmons 03 July 2012
Look to Liechtenstein! (I mean that 1/2 seriously.) And thank you for putting forward a few prudential considerations, concerning non-democratic rule.
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03 July 2012

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Tim Stacey

Tim Stacey is a Faiths & Civil Society Consultant and a Doctoral Candidate at the Faiths & Civil Society Unit...