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AV in Australia: Lessons for the UK

Professor Matt Qvortrup, a 'World Authority on Referendums,' adds his voice to those urging Conservatives to seriously consider the merits of voting reform

‘A week is a long time in politics' as Harold Wilson said. It follows that a couple of months are an eternity. One of the seismic shifts that have occurred in the past months was of course the unclear outcome of the election.

One thing that has become clear is that the electoral system is in need of repair. To be sure, the system ensured that an unpopular prime minister was removed from office, but the system also showed that First-Past-the-Post wildly exaggerates the support of some parties at the expense of others. In the most recent election it only took about 60.000 votes to elect a Labour MP, but roughly twice as many to elect a Liberal Democrat one. The Labour Party won roughly 40 percent after winning 29 percent of the votes, conversely, the Liberal Democrats won 23 percent of the votes but only a little more than 8 percent of the seats.

Of course, it used to be said (and I admit I used to argue this too) that a hung parliament would lead to indecision, but the Coalition Agreement and the ‘love-in' between 'Nick and Dave' has surprised many who weren't sure that such cooperation would be possible or sustainable.

Moreover, many governments of a centre-right bend have enacted quite far reaching reforms under alternative systems of majority voting. The so-called Alternative Vote System, which currently operates in a moderated form in London, is used in Australia. There it has secured the dominance of Conservative parties for much of the 20th Century. Apart from a period in the 1980s, the Liberal Party (Australia's Conservatives) had a majority with the National Party from the Second World War to the early 1970 and again from the mid 1990s to 2007. In the latter period, the Government led by John Howard introduced quite radical reforms of economic and social legislation which were every bit as radical as what had been enacted in the United Kingdom in the 1980s.

The reason that this was possible was due to Howard successfully appealing not only to the National Party, the Liberals' traditional allies, but also to Australian Democrats, a now practically defunct party, which shared many of the characteristics of the Liberal Democrats. Now, I do not want to turn this blog into a party political broadcast. I merely join Phillip Blond and Lewis Baston in writing to say that it would be unwise for Tories to dogmatically campaign against AV. As Michael Portillo too has argued: ‘The first-past-the-post system is now difficult to defend. Sooner or later it will be replaced. It would be better for the Conservatives to remodel it rather than allow Labour at some future date to choose a system that brings a partisan advantage' (Daily Telegraph 8 May, 2010). First-past the post is teetering. The suggestion that it be replaced with AV seems reasonable, without being revolutionary.

As Boris Johnson – a beneficiary of AV - said in an interview with the Daily Telegraph, ‘I have to accept that there are arguments [about electoral reform] that are difficult to dispatch very easily.' There is an unfairness in the current system. The advantage of First-Past-the-Post is that it delivers a decisive result. But that very virtue may be disproved if things in future turn out differently; if it turns out that those we wanted to kick out we couldn't. That is the unspoken argument against First-Past-the-post. It is difficult to disagree with it.


Comments on: AV in Australia: Lessons for the UK

Gravatar Sacha Chou 25 April 2011
I disagree with your slanted perspective about having to vote for an alternative you don't necessarily believe in. If you don't want to select a second preference you don't have to - it means you won't help candidates who you don't like to win but your vote will be wasted if your first choice doesn't win (that is exactly the situation you are in with FPTP, so if you admire FPTP so much and don't like any other party enough to support them, you can just vote for one candidate).

The "NO' campaign has made some blatantly false statements with their scaremongering statements, implying that minorities like the BNP can have their votes counted four or five times while Labour or Conservative votes only get counted once. That is downright misrepresentation, designed to scare the less-than-full-witted into believing in the bogey man.

Every vote counts once in each round of the AV ballot. One person gets one vote in each round of the AV ballot. No person's vote and no particular party's supporter gets more influence in the outcome than any other.

The "No" campaign bleats that "There is a very simple principle in politics and government - whoever gets the most votes wins". That is what happens in AV, so what is the point in saying this? They say this to IMPLY to the less-than-full-witted that a candidate who has not received the most votes will win under AV. If that is the best argument they can put and they think that they are properly presenting the pros and cons of different voting systems, they need to get themselves back to whichever care home it is they have gone missing from, PDQ.

AV means that if you want to "send a message" to politicians, such as by voting green or UKIP or whatever single-issue party happens to exist at the time, you can do it safe in the knowledge that if your first vote is lost due to AV elimination (which will be quite likely) your second choice vote will still count, so you have not wasted your vote by registering your support for something you firmly believe in.

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Gravatar Pepe Miranda 14 April 2011
I read an article where the Prime Minister asks people to consider saying NO. Among other propositions, he claims the people of Australia have "When they say: "AV will make MPs work harder and tackle safe seats", tell them there's no evidence for that. In Australia, where they use AV (and incidentally want to get rid of it) nearly half of all seats are considered safe."

It is time to find out why they are not happy with this system

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23941557-londons-crucial-role-in-deciding-our-voting-system.do

What ever your views, please let your friends know they should practice their rights, and this is a crucial one!

Pepe Miranda
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Gravatar Eran Adams 11 March 2011
The AV system is really a bad voting system.

An important claim of the supporters of the AV is that “It penalises extremist parties, who are unlikely to gain many second-preference votes.” Well, yes, if you assume the following:

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You are a Labour voter. Therefore, you are not in any way going to vote for Tories. So you are left with the option of voting for the LIB-Dem, or any other party – all of which are extreme in one way or the other – may it be the Greens, the BNP or the Loonies.

So, if you decide that voting for the Lib-Dem is not your wish, you will be voting for a party that have one major theme engraved in it’s manifesto that is close to your heart. That will also be the epitome of Tactical Voting – You will be trying to pass your party a message that this or that issue is important for you.

That will put to shame the other claims of the yes campaigners for AV: “It eliminates the need for tactical voting.”

Now, how stupid can the UK voters be! You are lead into the best laid down trap: The Lib-Dem said that the AV is a compromise instead of having the proportional voting system.

This is not true. The AV is a lot better for them than the proportional voting system – as many UK voters will indeed avoid voting for a small extremists party – so they will vote for the Lb-Dem – they will thing that they really do not have another choice for the second preference. The Lib-Dem will than be piggy carried to victory in many constitutes with the combined second choice of the two main party’s voters.

And at the same time, we will have some small and extremist parties in our Parliament – just like in the proportional voting system.

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With two thirds of the MP’s lacked majority in their areas, one should not be blame to think that the Lib-Dem will become the biggest party in the Parliament. Now, that may not be a bad thing, you might say. Well, the fact is that if that happens, it means that the Lib-Dem won because they where the forced ‘there is nothing better to vote for as second choice’ for most voters.

Well. ‘nothing better’ is not really a political endorsement.

The Lib-Dem went to government for the AV and the AV alone – and not for the ministerial jobs at the current government, as James O’Brian from LBC claims. That calculation is the long term motivation. It promises all the current Lib-Dem MP’s government jobs in the future.

That is nothing less than the biggest political fraud ever. It is only one step down from a military putsch.
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Gravatar Adam 02 June 2010
If not AV now it's likely to be something more disadvantageous and radical later. Trying to passionately argue against AV will probably come across as crudely partisan and it's hardly possible now for Tories to argue that coalitions are disasterous.

I also think that AV will be quite popular with the public; and it's never good to be on losing side of a popular battle.
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Gravatar john winstanley 02 June 2010
all votes must be counted accounted and count,nobodys vote should be wasted simply due to were they live.in any system the peoples will overides all other considerations.
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02 June 2010

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